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	<title>Comments on: Parting ways with Woopra</title>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/woopra/#comment-3462</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nihar

Not good for Woopra I guess, but they kinda overpromised in my opinion.</description>
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<p>Not good for Woopra I guess, but they kinda overpromised in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Nihar</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/woopra/#comment-3458</link>
		<dc:creator>Nihar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had used woopra for only few days. I was not impressed with it. Nice review and a good conclusion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had used woopra for only few days. I was not impressed with it. Nice review and a good conclusion!</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/woopra/#comment-3410</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Donace

Converting lurkers is good sign for a blog. :)

On privacy... just for a scale. In country where I live government databases are consistently leaked every year and it&#039;s relatively easy and cheap to buy such information as home phones+addresses, automobile owners and taxes. Mobile numbers are bit harder (lots of prepaid) but probably possible as well.

So when someone can go and buy such information on you (and few millions more) it&#039;s kinda stupid to worry about email. :)

On Woopra presentation I find interface too static. Even web-based GA allows to drag widgets around but in Woopra everything is glued where developers put it. It&#039;s strange when desktop app is less flexible than online one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Donace</p>
<p>Converting lurkers is good sign for a blog. :)</p>
<p>On privacy&#8230; just for a scale. In country where I live government databases are consistently leaked every year and it&#8217;s relatively easy and cheap to buy such information as home phones+addresses, automobile owners and taxes. Mobile numbers are bit harder (lots of prepaid) but probably possible as well.</p>
<p>So when someone can go and buy such information on you (and few millions more) it&#8217;s kinda stupid to worry about email. :)</p>
<p>On Woopra presentation I find interface too static. Even web-based GA allows to drag widgets around but in Woopra everything is glued where developers put it. It&#8217;s strange when desktop app is less flexible than online one.</p>
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		<title>By: Donace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rarst 
Np been lurking about for a while thought I&#039;d comment.

You should be cautious though using just an email a lot of information can be found out about you. Especially in times of social media and Facebook etc.

I haven&#039;t got large scale traffic either; but the end of month figures of the two did vary by a few hundred. Though i&#039;m happy to continue using woopra as I said while there are bugs etc its presentation is a lot easier to understand then GA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rarst<br />
Np been lurking about for a while thought I&#8217;d comment.</p>
<p>You should be cautious though using just an email a lot of information can be found out about you. Especially in times of social media and Facebook etc.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t got large scale traffic either; but the end of month figures of the two did vary by a few hundred. Though i&#8217;m happy to continue using woopra as I said while there are bugs etc its presentation is a lot easier to understand then GA.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/woopra/#comment-3406</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Donace

There are a lot of scary things in life. Frankly I don&#039;t rank someone knowing my email address very high among them. :)

I hadn&#039;t noticed large difference between Woopra and GA, that may be because of relatively small traffic of mine. I was more annoyed with downtimes and funcitons turning on and off all the time, first few weeks search wasn&#039;t working, etc.

Thanks for your visit and comment. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Donace</p>
<p>There are a lot of scary things in life. Frankly I don&#8217;t rank someone knowing my email address very high among them. :)</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t noticed large difference between Woopra and GA, that may be because of relatively small traffic of mine. I was more annoyed with downtimes and funcitons turning on and off all the time, first few weeks search wasn&#8217;t working, etc.</p>
<p>Thanks for your visit and comment. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Donace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: google it is scary I recently wrote a post on the very topic http://thenexus.tk/information-superpower/

It truly is scary though the post goes of on a tangent.

re: woopra - indeed it is &#039;beta&#039; in every sense of the word. There is always discrepancy between it and analytics...however its method of display and aggregation of certain data is very useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: google it is scary I recently wrote a post on the very topic <a href="http://thenexus.tk/information-superpower/">http://thenexus.tk/information-superpower/</a></p>
<p>It truly is scary though the post goes of on a tangent.</p>
<p>re: woopra &#8211; indeed it is &#8216;beta&#8217; in every sense of the word. There is always discrepancy between it and analytics&#8230;however its method of display and aggregation of certain data is very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/woopra/#comment-3400</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sjeltur

Well, privacy is common concern but we hardly have a choice. Trying to anonymize Internet experience is pretty hard (and basically shoots that experience).

Glad you like my blog. :) Looking forward to more comments from you on future posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sjeltur</p>
<p>Well, privacy is common concern but we hardly have a choice. Trying to anonymize Internet experience is pretty hard (and basically shoots that experience).</p>
<p>Glad you like my blog. :) Looking forward to more comments from you on future posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Sjeltur</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/woopra/#comment-3394</link>
		<dc:creator>Sjeltur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well; in the woopra forum you will see people asking the woopra guy about it.

Just read this little part; http://www.woopra.com/forums/topic/about-my-love-and-fear-of-woopra-in-danish#post-102

But again; I also have no idea how it really works.
And if you search the internet; there are already a lot of questions about the behavior of Google... The &quot;spyware&quot; they put in Chrome..??  ;)

Btw - really like ya website !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well; in the woopra forum you will see people asking the woopra guy about it.</p>
<p>Just read this little part; <a href="http://www.woopra.com/forums/topic/about-my-love-and-fear-of-woopra-in-danish#post-102">http://www.woopra.com/forums/topic/about-my-love-and-fear-of-woopra-in-danish#post-102</a></p>
<p>But again; I also have no idea how it really works.<br />
And if you search the internet; there are already a lot of questions about the behavior of Google&#8230; The &#8220;spyware&#8221; they put in Chrome..??  ;)</p>
<p>Btw &#8211; really like ya website !</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/woopra/#comment-3390</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sjeltur

Strange, can&#039;t confirm because all personal info I had ever seen in Woopra was for those who left comments.

If Google was giving email in referrals that would have created huge backlash long ago I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sjeltur</p>
<p>Strange, can&#8217;t confirm because all personal info I had ever seen in Woopra was for those who left comments.</p>
<p>If Google was giving email in referrals that would have created huge backlash long ago I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Sjeltur</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/woopra/#comment-3389</link>
		<dc:creator>Sjeltur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope - it shows more emails....
For example; my girlfriend who NEVER did a post ANYWHERE on the internet - surfed on my site (in her own house) and I was able to see her email !!
Same for a good friend - who is posting a lot BUT always with fake email address = as he is a little paranoid....
And I was able to see his g-mail address of him which I never knew he had one..... !!

According to the builder of Woopra it is using traces of google.... which means that I was able to see his email address which he has been checking - and googled after that for my website... (he always gets in via Google) and that way I was able to see his email address; which means = Google is leaving to much traces....
(I garantuee you = I am not making there 2 up !!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope &#8211; it shows more emails&#8230;.<br />
For example; my girlfriend who NEVER did a post ANYWHERE on the internet &#8211; surfed on my site (in her own house) and I was able to see her email !!<br />
Same for a good friend &#8211; who is posting a lot BUT always with fake email address = as he is a little paranoid&#8230;.<br />
And I was able to see his g-mail address of him which I never knew he had one&#8230;.. !!</p>
<p>According to the builder of Woopra it is using traces of google&#8230;. which means that I was able to see his email address which he has been checking &#8211; and googled after that for my website&#8230; (he always gets in via Google) and that way I was able to see his email address; which means = Google is leaving to much traces&#8230;.<br />
(I garantuee you = I am not making there 2 up !!)</p>
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