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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/rating/#comment-8699</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 05:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob

Rating articles is different metric. It is feedback and something easily displayed and combined to highlight top content.

And yes - there is problem of readers confusing rating post and rating what post is about.

I am considering implementing Google Friend Connect stuff and one of their lates additions is &quot;recommend&quot; button. I think it&#039;s better approach to rating posts than 1-X scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob</p>
<p>Rating articles is different metric. It is feedback and something easily displayed and combined to highlight top content.</p>
<p>And yes &#8211; there is problem of readers confusing rating post and rating what post is about.</p>
<p>I am considering implementing Google Friend Connect stuff and one of their lates additions is &#8220;recommend&#8221; button. I think it&#8217;s better approach to rating posts than 1-X scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Dunn</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/rating/#comment-8698</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Dunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 03:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  This was something I think Samer had struggled with over at FreewareGenius.  Basically, my approach is &quot;I like it enough to post about it, but your mileage may vary&quot;.  You get out of the software what you put into it.

I don&#039;t mind the readers rating my articles, per se - but I&#039;m hoping they are doing so based upon the quality of content I am posting in addition to the quality of software, but who knows...

Good post R,
Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  This was something I think Samer had struggled with over at FreewareGenius.  Basically, my approach is &#8220;I like it enough to post about it, but your mileage may vary&#8221;.  You get out of the software what you put into it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind the readers rating my articles, per se &#8211; but I&#8217;m hoping they are doing so based upon the quality of content I am posting in addition to the quality of software, but who knows&#8230;</p>
<p>Good post R,<br />
Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Benoit Tremblay</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/rating/#comment-8652</link>
		<dc:creator>Benoit Tremblay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problems Rarst, it&#039;s important to run everything like you want it to be run! ;)

Yeah, I&#039;ve been quiet lately, busy with a lot of stuff offline. Still related to the Web, but more on the consulting side. I should be more active this summer ;)

Ben.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problems Rarst, it&#8217;s important to run everything like you want it to be run! ;)</p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve been quiet lately, busy with a lot of stuff offline. Still related to the Web, but more on the consulting side. I should be more active this summer ;)</p>
<p>Ben.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/rating/#comment-8648</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ben

Why not 1000 then? :) Would be recap of software that scored high, not necessarily best.

&lt;cite&gt;putting a rating certainly won’t hurt your readership&lt;/cite&gt;
Had you forgot how bad I am at things I am &lt;em&gt;supposed to do&lt;/em&gt;? :) This blog is not run by visitor expectations, it is run by me.

Hadn&#039;t seen comment from you in ages, still workburied?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ben</p>
<p>Why not 1000 then? :) Would be recap of software that scored high, not necessarily best.</p>
<p><cite>putting a rating certainly won’t hurt your readership</cite><br />
Had you forgot how bad I am at things I am <em>supposed to do</em>? :) This blog is not run by visitor expectations, it is run by me.</p>
<p>Hadn&#8217;t seen comment from you in ages, still workburied?</p>
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		<title>By: Benoit Tremblay</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/rating/#comment-8647</link>
		<dc:creator>Benoit Tremblay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say if you go with the rating, give a rating on 100 points. This way, even if you review only good software, 100 points gives you a lot more room than 5 stars. You know, there&#039;s a lot between a 4 stars and a 5 stars.

The benefit I can see of using a rating would be to make a nice monthly recap or a year recap of the best softwares you&#039;ve reviewed through the year.

I personally don&#039;t care if you put a rating or not, but putting a rating certainly won&#039;t hurt your readership. I think it can only improve your readership because of the people looking for a rating...for a number of different reasons.

By establishing strict guidelines, I think you can reach the best of both worlds. ;)

Ben.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say if you go with the rating, give a rating on 100 points. This way, even if you review only good software, 100 points gives you a lot more room than 5 stars. You know, there&#8217;s a lot between a 4 stars and a 5 stars.</p>
<p>The benefit I can see of using a rating would be to make a nice monthly recap or a year recap of the best softwares you&#8217;ve reviewed through the year.</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t care if you put a rating or not, but putting a rating certainly won&#8217;t hurt your readership. I think it can only improve your readership because of the people looking for a rating&#8230;for a number of different reasons.</p>
<p>By establishing strict guidelines, I think you can reach the best of both worlds. ;)</p>
<p>Ben.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/rating/#comment-8607</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 11:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom Clarke

Yep, I guess strict and defined system negates at least part of issues with rating.

Thanks for dropping by and extensive comment! Reminds me I should browse Softonic. I don&#039;t spend much time on software portals but lately Appnews.net forces me to. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom Clarke</p>
<p>Yep, I guess strict and defined system negates at least part of issues with rating.</p>
<p>Thanks for dropping by and extensive comment! Reminds me I should browse Softonic. I don&#8217;t spend much time on software portals but lately Appnews.net forces me to. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/rating/#comment-8606</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 10:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve made some good points here regarding what we too fine to be one of the trickiest parts of running a software website. At Softonic, we have a strict rating system, shared across our different locales, which deducts and awards points for various parts of each program, as well as a 2-point &#039;bonus&#039; based on the editor&#039;s general feeling about the software in question. It&#039;s not a perfect system but it does allow us to justify a low score when a developer questions our rating.

The biggest problem is that many of our competitors seem only too happy to dish out 10/10 ratings purely so they can get their site&#039;s logo included on the developer&#039;s homepage. This cynical approach to editorial review has made a lot of users mistrustful of starred ratings on software websites, and I understand why.

In the end though, at Softonic we feel that a well-written review accompanied by a carefully considered rating out of 5 stars,  offer all of our visitors the best of both worlds. We also hope that our users recognise that we rarely give a program 10/10, and so when a program receives that score, it truly is something special.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve made some good points here regarding what we too fine to be one of the trickiest parts of running a software website. At Softonic, we have a strict rating system, shared across our different locales, which deducts and awards points for various parts of each program, as well as a 2-point &#8216;bonus&#8217; based on the editor&#8217;s general feeling about the software in question. It&#8217;s not a perfect system but it does allow us to justify a low score when a developer questions our rating.</p>
<p>The biggest problem is that many of our competitors seem only too happy to dish out 10/10 ratings purely so they can get their site&#8217;s logo included on the developer&#8217;s homepage. This cynical approach to editorial review has made a lot of users mistrustful of starred ratings on software websites, and I understand why.</p>
<p>In the end though, at Softonic we feel that a well-written review accompanied by a carefully considered rating out of 5 stars,  offer all of our visitors the best of both worlds. We also hope that our users recognise that we rarely give a program 10/10, and so when a program receives that score, it truly is something special.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/rating/#comment-8570</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 16:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kalmly

It just occured to me when I was thinking over comments as metric that negative experience is more likely to be reported in those. Getting hard drive destroyed is stronger motivator than not getting hard drive destroyed. :)

Difference in user preferences is also contributing to issue a lot (didn&#039;t make it into post). It especially hurts when basis for rating is subjective.

For same app:
Blogger A would rate 8 for portable.
Blogger B would rate 6 for boring.
Blogger C would rate 4 for small banner in the corner.

Which one (if any) of these ratings is relevant to user would be completely up to user&#039;s preferences.

So far comments are for good descriptions. :) I wonder if someone pro-stars will share an opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kalmly</p>
<p>It just occured to me when I was thinking over comments as metric that negative experience is more likely to be reported in those. Getting hard drive destroyed is stronger motivator than not getting hard drive destroyed. :)</p>
<p>Difference in user preferences is also contributing to issue a lot (didn&#8217;t make it into post). It especially hurts when basis for rating is subjective.</p>
<p>For same app:<br />
Blogger A would rate 8 for portable.<br />
Blogger B would rate 6 for boring.<br />
Blogger C would rate 4 for small banner in the corner.</p>
<p>Which one (if any) of these ratings is relevant to user would be completely up to user&#8217;s preferences.</p>
<p>So far comments are for good descriptions. :) I wonder if someone pro-stars will share an opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: kalmly</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/rating/#comment-8569</link>
		<dc:creator>kalmly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 16:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think plain folks know what they are talking about, or how to rate a computer program, check out GOTD site. Scary. I do like to read comments that assure me a program will not destroy my hard drive and will uninstall nicely if I decide it isn&#039;t my cup of tea.  Doesn&#039;t it come down to personal preference? I have a treasure of a little application that few people have ever heard of - mostly because there is/was a load of hype for similar programs but not so for this one.  I would rate it a 10 and the others a 5 (maybe a 7) because I like small. However, others like big. I like fingers on keyboard, though others like mousing. I like do it once, though others don&#039;t seem to mind digging and clicking. SO - my rating wouldn&#039;t mean much to those &quot;others&quot;.

I do like input from reviewers, like yourself, especially those that compare the program to similar ones. If you don&#039;t want to rate it,  I don&#039;t really care. It&#039;s the words I pay attention to, though others prefer stars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think plain folks know what they are talking about, or how to rate a computer program, check out GOTD site. Scary. I do like to read comments that assure me a program will not destroy my hard drive and will uninstall nicely if I decide it isn&#8217;t my cup of tea.  Doesn&#8217;t it come down to personal preference? I have a treasure of a little application that few people have ever heard of &#8211; mostly because there is/was a load of hype for similar programs but not so for this one.  I would rate it a 10 and the others a 5 (maybe a 7) because I like small. However, others like big. I like fingers on keyboard, though others like mousing. I like do it once, though others don&#8217;t seem to mind digging and clicking. SO &#8211; my rating wouldn&#8217;t mean much to those &#8220;others&#8221;.</p>
<p>I do like input from reviewers, like yourself, especially those that compare the program to similar ones. If you don&#8217;t want to rate it,  I don&#8217;t really care. It&#8217;s the words I pay attention to, though others prefer stars.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/rating/#comment-8567</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 15:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kane

I am torn on comments. Sometimes they are relevant, sometimes are not. May look at them but I am not confident to use them as main metric.

Number of downloads only works for popular software. Small stuff may do task perfectly but isn&#039;t hyped and so downloaded as much.

Part of the problem is that there is such thing as &quot;consistently low rating&quot; for software. There are (of course) apps that plain suck but how many reviews there are that start with &quot;I decided to review utility that outright sucks and I rate it 1/10&quot; ? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kane</p>
<p>I am torn on comments. Sometimes they are relevant, sometimes are not. May look at them but I am not confident to use them as main metric.</p>
<p>Number of downloads only works for popular software. Small stuff may do task perfectly but isn&#8217;t hyped and so downloaded as much.</p>
<p>Part of the problem is that there is such thing as &#8220;consistently low rating&#8221; for software. There are (of course) apps that plain suck but how many reviews there are that start with &#8220;I decided to review utility that outright sucks and I rate it 1/10&#8243; ? :)</p>
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