Comments on: Plugins in Opera http://www.rarst.net/software/opera-plugins/ cynical thoughts on software and web Tue, 22 May 2012 09:35:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Rarst http://www.rarst.net/software/opera-plugins/#comment-14865 Rarst Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:52:53 +0000 http://www.rarst.net/?p=587#comment-14865 @The DataRat Just to clarify this is more of a post about how plugins in Opera can cause issues, rather than plugins in general and their advantages/disadvantages. :) You know I hardly need Firefox-like extensions in Opera either. I don't run alpha/beta/whatever versions of software unless I am really going to test it for bugs and such. Otherwise I just wait for release (and in some cases release and first patch/minor update). On performance - it's about time. Opera was always getting major upgrades to internals from time to time. Lately they had their plate so full with Unite and such that internal updates seem to be spread and more rare. @The DataRat

Just to clarify this is more of a post about how plugins in Opera can cause issues, rather than plugins in general and their advantages/disadvantages. :) You know I hardly need Firefox-like extensions in Opera either.

I don’t run alpha/beta/whatever versions of software unless I am really going to test it for bugs and such. Otherwise I just wait for release (and in some cases release and first patch/minor update).

On performance – it’s about time. Opera was always getting major upgrades to internals from time to time. Lately they had their plate so full with Unite and such that internal updates seem to be spread and more rare.

]]> By: Saurabh Kumar http://www.rarst.net/software/opera-plugins/#comment-14832 Saurabh Kumar Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:40:22 +0000 http://www.rarst.net/?p=587#comment-14832 Yeah I tried 10.5. Cant't say that I'm able to perceive a difference in page loading or js speed. Millisecond differences have always passed me over. but the application itself seems fast. (They now switch tabs on click rather on release, like Chrome which adds to the illusion.) . But Opera remains my fav browser. Yeah I tried 10.5. Cant’t say that I’m able to perceive a difference in page loading or js speed. Millisecond differences have always passed me over. but the application itself seems fast. (They now switch tabs on click rather on release, like Chrome which adds to the illusion.) . But Opera remains my fav browser.

]]> By: The DataRat http://www.rarst.net/software/opera-plugins/#comment-14809 The DataRat Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:54:58 +0000 http://www.rarst.net/?p=587#comment-14809 . Anybody try Oper v. 10.5, yet ? BetaNews tests have it faster than Google Chrome: http://www.betanews.com/article/Its-a-threeway-race-Opera-preview-clings-to-lead-over-Safari-4-Chrome-5/1265150085 Opera 10.5 is not alpha ...it's pre-alpha ! So, it's feature-set is incomplete. Within that limitation, though, my experience has been that it indeed is faster than the Chrome v. 5.0.307.1 which I have been using. ( And, even with an incomplete feature-set, it ~still~ has more features than Chrome ! ) This looks to be terrific by the time they get it even to beta. . The Digital Rodent . .

Anybody try Oper v. 10.5, yet ?

BetaNews tests have it faster than Google Chrome:

http://www.betanews.com/article/Its-a-threeway-race-Opera-preview-clings-to-lead-over-Safari-4-Chrome-5/1265150085

Opera 10.5 is not alpha …it’s pre-alpha ! So, it’s feature-set
is incomplete. Within that limitation, though, my experience has
been that it indeed is faster than the Chrome v. 5.0.307.1 which I
have been using. ( And, even with an incomplete feature-set, it
~still~ has more features than Chrome ! )

This looks to be terrific by the time they get it even to beta.

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The Digital Rodent

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]]> By: The DataRat http://www.rarst.net/software/opera-plugins/#comment-14807 The DataRat Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:45:44 +0000 http://www.rarst.net/?p=587#comment-14807 "many years ago, as I recall, Opera was a search engine" . I believe you are confusing Opera with something else. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_browser#History . The DataRat . “many years ago, as
I recall, Opera was
a search engine”

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I believe you are confusing Opera with something else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_browser#History

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The DataRat

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]]> By: The DataRat http://www.rarst.net/software/opera-plugins/#comment-14806 The DataRat Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:42:59 +0000 http://www.rarst.net/?p=587#comment-14806 "It doesn’t have easy and abundant plugins and relies more heavily on native functions" . Something which -after using Opera for a LOT of years- I can't say I find disadvantageous. Just about all the functionality I desire is present natively. And the few plug-in's Opera does have (e.g. Flash) I'm very pleased that it permits them to be conveniently turned ~off~ ! . The DataRat . “It doesn’t have easy
and abundant plugins
and relies more heavily
on native functions”

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Something which -after using Opera for a LOT of years- I can’t say
I find disadvantageous. Just about all the functionality I desire
is present natively. And the few plug-in’s Opera does have (e.g.
Flash) I’m very pleased that it permits them to be conveniently
turned ~off~ !

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The DataRat

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]]> By: Rarst http://www.rarst.net/software/opera-plugins/#comment-14787 Rarst Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:20:49 +0000 http://www.rarst.net/?p=587#comment-14787 @Saurabh I am generalizing a bit, I use plugin as generic term for anything that extends native browser functionality. There are way too many approaches and names for this between different browsers, so I just lump it all under plugins. @Saurabh

I am generalizing a bit, I use plugin as generic term for anything that extends native browser functionality. There are way too many approaches and names for this between different browsers, so I just lump it all under plugins.

]]> By: Saurabh http://www.rarst.net/software/opera-plugins/#comment-14774 Saurabh Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:03:10 +0000 http://www.rarst.net/?p=587#comment-14774 Hope you're not confusing plugins and extensions. Opera has plugins but does not support extensions. Usually plugins in Opera are created via Netscape Plugin API (NPAPI). NPAPI plugins are supported by Opera, Firefox, Safari, Google Chrome, and Konqueror. (So these plugins are cross-browser.) . So if a plugin has been created for Firefox via the NPAPI interface , it will work in Opera, thus making Opera have the same support for plugins as Firefox. Hope you’re not confusing plugins and extensions. Opera has plugins but does not support extensions. Usually plugins in Opera are created via Netscape Plugin API (NPAPI). NPAPI plugins are supported by Opera, Firefox, Safari, Google Chrome, and Konqueror. (So these plugins are cross-browser.) . So if a plugin has been created for Firefox via the NPAPI interface , it will work in Opera, thus making Opera have the same support for plugins as Firefox.

]]> By: Rarst http://www.rarst.net/software/opera-plugins/#comment-14742 Rarst Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:34:37 +0000 http://www.rarst.net/?p=587#comment-14742 @kelltic Sorry, I don't go that far back with Internet. :) I only started to use it regularly around late 1999 or early 2000. By that time Opera had been long released and closing in on versions 4-5 since which I started to use it. @kelltic

Sorry, I don’t go that far back with Internet. :) I only started to use it regularly around late 1999 or early 2000. By that time Opera had been long released and closing in on versions 4-5 since which I started to use it.

]]> By: kelltic http://www.rarst.net/software/opera-plugins/#comment-14741 kelltic Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:46:10 +0000 http://www.rarst.net/?p=587#comment-14741 I hope this isn't too far off the subject but since you are so fond of Opera: Many, many years ago, as I recall, Opera was a search engine. I used it exclusively. Then one day it locked me out. Went to some sort of pay per search which I interested me not at all, not that I was invited to subscribe or whatever it was doing at the time. So - I went on to use AlltheWeb for my searches. I forgot about Opera altogether except for seeing its little icon here and there at the very bottom of web pages. Then OPERA, the browser, appeared. Do you know anything about all of this? Is my memory doing funky foggy again? I hope this isn’t too far off the subject but since you are so fond of Opera:

Many, many years ago, as I recall, Opera was a search engine. I used it exclusively. Then one day it locked me out. Went to some sort of pay per search which I interested me not at all, not that I was invited to subscribe or whatever it was doing at the time. So – I went on to use AlltheWeb for my searches. I forgot about Opera altogether except for seeing its little icon here and there at the very bottom of web pages. Then OPERA, the browser, appeared. Do you know anything about all of this? Is my memory doing funky foggy again?

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