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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/image-file-execution-options/#comment-84290</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-84287&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;@Altiris_Grunt&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

As for me there is simple practical test if it&#039;s worth cleaning up - does computer survive initial antivirus scan. 

If it does - there isn&#039;t likely to be issues that registry cleanup and such won&#039;t fix.

If it doesn&#039;t - likely system was harmed beyond simple fix (but there are typical exceptions that are easy to recognize and fix like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rarst.net/software/blank-desktop/&quot;&gt;blank desktop&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-84287"><strong>@Altiris_Grunt</strong></a></p>
<p>As for me there is simple practical test if it&#8217;s worth cleaning up &#8211; does computer survive initial antivirus scan. </p>
<p>If it does &#8211; there isn&#8217;t likely to be issues that registry cleanup and such won&#8217;t fix.</p>
<p>If it doesn&#8217;t &#8211; likely system was harmed beyond simple fix (but there are typical exceptions that are easy to recognize and fix like <a href="http://www.rarst.net/software/blank-desktop/">blank desktop</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Altiris_Grunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Altiris_Grunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heroic Rescue measure.  Sometimes, its worth the effort.  Sometimes, you (or your customer) don&#039;t have all of the original software installation disks for a complete rebuild.

I hate to say this, because I love a technical challenge, but there&#039;s a practical limit when dealing with malware-infected systems! 

I mean, if this is a home system (maybe yours!), you might be comfortable spending several days in a heroic rescue attempt.

In a business environment (where time equals money), anything over a couple of hours would merit a complete format and rebuild. To lessen the impact, one would use a bootable rescue CD/DVD and backup the C:\User (or Document and Settings) folders first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heroic Rescue measure.  Sometimes, its worth the effort.  Sometimes, you (or your customer) don&#8217;t have all of the original software installation disks for a complete rebuild.</p>
<p>I hate to say this, because I love a technical challenge, but there&#8217;s a practical limit when dealing with malware-infected systems! </p>
<p>I mean, if this is a home system (maybe yours!), you might be comfortable spending several days in a heroic rescue attempt.</p>
<p>In a business environment (where time equals money), anything over a couple of hours would merit a complete format and rebuild. To lessen the impact, one would use a bootable rescue CD/DVD and backup the C:\User (or Document and Settings) folders first.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/image-file-execution-options/#comment-84123</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-84091&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;@Marvin&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

I am out of any more ideas without encountering such for myself and having hands on experience with the case.

Personally and in general I&#039;d try to find anti-malware scanner that handles it or wrote something in AutoIt to loop through registry branch and nuke hijacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-84091"><strong>@Marvin</strong></a></p>
<p>I am out of any more ideas without encountering such for myself and having hands on experience with the case.</p>
<p>Personally and in general I&#8217;d try to find anti-malware scanner that handles it or wrote something in AutoIt to loop through registry branch and nuke hijacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/image-file-execution-options/#comment-84091</link>
		<dc:creator>Marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-84069&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;@Rarst&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

The last time I experienced this was yesterday on a system with XP.  I really do see this problem every other day.

I need to find a quicker way of deleting 100&#039;s of registry entries.  Since I&#039;m the one setting up my customers Anti-virus, I can go find the appropriate .exe and find them under the image file execution registry entry.  I delete it and everything is good to go .  The only problem is, if they change anti-viruses in the future, odds are there will be an .exe entry that will still exist for the new antivirus they choose.  I just can&#039;t sit there and delete 100&#039;s of entried 1 by 1.  The only thing I can do is attack the appropriate entries that will let the anti-virus I want to use work.  (Most the time I&#039;m putting MSE on machines.  As I said before there are only 2 .exe I usually have to clear from this list to get MSE to work.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-84069"><strong>@Rarst</strong></a></p>
<p>The last time I experienced this was yesterday on a system with XP.  I really do see this problem every other day.</p>
<p>I need to find a quicker way of deleting 100&#8242;s of registry entries.  Since I&#8217;m the one setting up my customers Anti-virus, I can go find the appropriate .exe and find them under the image file execution registry entry.  I delete it and everything is good to go .  The only problem is, if they change anti-viruses in the future, odds are there will be an .exe entry that will still exist for the new antivirus they choose.  I just can&#8217;t sit there and delete 100&#8242;s of entried 1 by 1.  The only thing I can do is attack the appropriate entries that will let the anti-virus I want to use work.  (Most the time I&#8217;m putting MSE on machines.  As I said before there are only 2 .exe I usually have to clear from this list to get MSE to work.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/image-file-execution-options/#comment-84069</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-83987&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;@Marvin&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Sorry, I had never encountered such situation (and I used Autoruns on countless computers).

I&#039;d check if there is correct profile set in Autoruns and if it runs with admin permissions. Other than that my only guess is that registry might have corrupted security settings (nastiest malware does that) which prevent access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-83987"><strong>@Marvin</strong></a></p>
<p>Sorry, I had never encountered such situation (and I used Autoruns on countless computers).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d check if there is correct profile set in Autoruns and if it runs with admin permissions. Other than that my only guess is that registry might have corrupted security settings (nastiest malware does that) which prevent access.</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 03:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-83952&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;@Rarst&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

I disagree.  100&#039;s of anti-virus and other executables are hijacked and pointing to Svchost.exe

What I have been doing to get around this is just deleting the entries that were necessary for me to install MSE.  (MsMpEng.exe and msseces.exe)  There are too many entries for me to delete them all.  I can&#039;t select more than one at a time.  So I scan down the list and get the obvious executables that stand out.

That tool you recommend above does not list ANY of these hijacked .exe  I was hoping that tool would allow me to delete multiple registry entries quickly and in larger multiples than just 1 at a time.  

A large percentage of the virus ridden computers I repair have this exact problem I mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-83952"><strong>@Rarst</strong></a></p>
<p>I disagree.  100&#8242;s of anti-virus and other executables are hijacked and pointing to Svchost.exe</p>
<p>What I have been doing to get around this is just deleting the entries that were necessary for me to install MSE.  (MsMpEng.exe and msseces.exe)  There are too many entries for me to delete them all.  I can&#8217;t select more than one at a time.  So I scan down the list and get the obvious executables that stand out.</p>
<p>That tool you recommend above does not list ANY of these hijacked .exe  I was hoping that tool would allow me to delete multiple registry entries quickly and in larger multiples than just 1 at a time.  </p>
<p>A large percentage of the virus ridden computers I repair have this exact problem I mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Rarst</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/image-file-execution-options/#comment-83952</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-83945&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;@Marvin&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Not all entries in that registry branch are image hijacks. Actually in practice very few (if any at all) of those hundreds of entries have anything to do with it.

Autoruns only shows those entries that matter - the ones with &lt;em&gt;debugger&lt;/em&gt; parameter set, which is only case when executable or library is actually hijacked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-83945"><strong>@Marvin</strong></a></p>
<p>Not all entries in that registry branch are image hijacks. Actually in practice very few (if any at all) of those hundreds of entries have anything to do with it.</p>
<p>Autoruns only shows those entries that matter &#8211; the ones with <em>debugger</em> parameter set, which is only case when executable or library is actually hijacked.</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As of today, Autoruns does not even show all the items that are being hijacked in the image file execution part of the registry.  

I have 100&#039;s of items that I just can&#039;t delete one by one.  Although Autoruns seems like a helpful program, it doesn&#039;t do what you say it does.  At least not for me.  

Thanks anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As of today, Autoruns does not even show all the items that are being hijacked in the image file execution part of the registry.  </p>
<p>I have 100&#8242;s of items that I just can&#8217;t delete one by one.  Although Autoruns seems like a helpful program, it doesn&#8217;t do what you say it does.  At least not for me.  </p>
<p>Thanks anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: RegFromApp &#8211; simple registry monitor &#124; Rarst.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>RegFromApp &#8211; simple registry monitor &#124; Rarst.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that splits into multiply threads or runs periodically. One way to work around that might be using Image File Execution options to set RegFromApp as debugger for executable.Common way to monitor for registry changes is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that splits into multiply threads or runs periodically. One way to work around that might be using Image File Execution options to set RegFromApp as debugger for executable.Common way to monitor for registry changes is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RegScanner &#8211; search app for Windows registry &#124; Rarst.net</title>
		<link>http://www.rarst.net/software/image-file-execution-options/#comment-9834</link>
		<dc:creator>RegScanner &#8211; search app for Windows registry &#124; Rarst.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Only thing that could be better if app offered at least basic editing capabilities on top of pure search. Relying on native editor can bite in some situations, like when malware blocks it with executable hijack. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Only thing that could be better if app offered at least basic editing capabilities on top of pure search. Relying on native editor can bite in some situations, like when malware blocks it with executable hijack. [...]</p>
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